Ordered and in the mail. Likely will have them installed in the coming weeks.
I just saw the video from IgnitionTube that Eli's B8.5 S4 was totaled. Very shocking. I sold my B5 S4 and bought my B8 S4 based off his videos alone. This is certainly a sad day in the B8 S4 community as a very nice ride is no longer with us....
Spring is coming, tax return on the way... time to plans my next project B8.5 Audi S4!
The most pressing thing I need to get done, is to flush my DSG. I'm looking to get this following kit and everything flushed in the coming months:
Next on the list, coilovers! Yes, I'm going with Solo-Werks onces again. As much as I would love to get some H&R or KW, I'm unlikely to track this car so comfort is the most important thing at this time. .
I will replace the front top strut mount, but will leave everything else in place unless it needs to be replaced. Most people have reported the rear mounts were still good, so I'll save some money there.
And lastly, I have two sets of tires (winter and summer) but only one set of wheels/rim and I really do not have to get the tire mounted every winter season. I really like what VMR is offering and I've heard nothing be awesome service from them. The funny thing, in all my years of tuning cars, I've never actually bought new wheels, so I'm struggling to decide which style I want to go for. I know for sure I want to do a gunmetal color as I'm not a big fan of the silver on silver looks with the stock wheels. As well I want to keep the size at 19x8.5" with a near stock offset. The V710FF are light weight and I love the concave design. On the other hand V708 are similar to the RS4 stock wheels, and you know how us S4 owner want that RS4 look. This is going to be a tough one...
What do you all think I should go for?
So far I'm happy with the Ceramic Coating. The biggest reason is that when I wash my car I can get 90% of the dirt off with just water. It just make the car easier to clean. The big plus is that water just beads up and flow off like nothing I've seen. Yes dirt will still stick to it, but it takes a lot. For example, the images below I haven't washed it in two week and still it's pretty clean. This includes a recent snow storm and a few hours of making donuts in a near by parking lot. Like I said I'm pretty happy with the coating even if it is a once a year thing or bi-yearly.
Read more about my Ceramic Coating here: http://www.mys4.org/b85--b5-audi-s4-progress/ceramic-coating-applied-carpro-cquartz-uk-30
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The one thing that has bugged me for a while is my cluster. One of the previous owners spilled something, likely coffee on the cluster and failed to clean it up. Likely they let it bake in the sun so it was game over at that one. I tried to clean it up with no success. I figured it must have gotten in the inside of the plastic lens. So today I decided it was finally time to fix this.
I follow some of the instructions and a few videos found in the link below:
To clean the cluster I took took the lens off the cluster by unscrewing about 8-10 small torx screws from behind the cluster, and the lens basicly snaps off the cluster. What I found after doing this was that the spills was actually on the outside of the lens. I know pretty stupid, but the spill was so etched into the plastic is was hard to tell.
Now knowing where to actually clean, I started with windows cleaner and then rubbing alcohol, but was not making any progress. I had some heavy duty glass cleaner so I figured I would give it a try:
I started in a small area with this stuff as it was pretty powerful. I quickly discovered this stuff worked just like it does on glass. One tip I would offer is to wear gloves, and also use either a foam pad or microfiber towel to start your polishing. After about 15 mins of polishing, 99% of the spill was finally removed.
I then went over the cluster with a fine swirl remover polish to removal any swirls this glass cleaner may have introduced. I only spent about 5 mins on this as this plastic lens is pretty soft, so didn't want to completely remove layers of plastic. I finished the polishing up with some more rubbing alcohol to clean down the surface once more and prep it for my next step.
My last step was to apply a layer of paint sealant to offer some UV protection so the plastic would not yellow like some plastic headlights do. Not to mention this would help hide any remaining swirl marks. I did a few coats of this stuff as I had it in the garage:
And as you can see below, this turned out pretty good.
My Prep Work Process:
As for my prep work before I applied the ceramic coating, I washed the S4 like normal with few ounces of "SuperClean" in the soap to help strip all the grease, wax, and dirt away. From that point on I opted out of the typically clay bar for a no touch chemical clay bar process. Why? Well... clay bars are great for really really contaminated cars, my car was already detailed back a few months back when I got the car, and I garage it at home and at work keep it away from all trees. Yes, I know you can still pick up a lot of crap just from driving, but I don't live in area with tons of bugs and I haven't been on any long road trips. Not to mention I really wanted to see if a chemical treatment was just as good if not better than a clay bar. Once the wash was completed, I air dried it with electric air blower (I love this thing) and started the first decontamination treatment with CarPro Iron X.
Decontamination Stage 1:
Basically you spray CarPro Iron X everywhere on your car (avoid your brake rotors or any exposed metal) and let it sit for 5-10mins to react/disoval any iron contaminant. I think I had it on there for maybe 15min. Minus the bad chemical smell this give off, it is pretty cool how it turns purple (dark red) when the reaction with iron starts. I didn't see a lot of reaction on my car so that appeared to be good sign my car was already in good shape. That said, I'm not sure if this is a chemical trick or not, so I can't really say for certain how well this work. If you are looking for a warm fuzzy feeling, this might help with that.
Decontamination Stage 2:
This next step I knew was really where things would get removed. Just like the Iron X, I sprayed on the CarPro Tar X everywhere on my car's surface and allowed it to sit for about 10mins. Luckily this stuff smells pretty good (like Oranges) so no issues here. After about 10mins I went over it again with a wash meet and sprayed a little more Tar X to make sure I got all areas of the car and to help loosen up anything that the Tar X already loosened up. Finally I finished it up with a nice long water raise with my pressure washer. After air drying my car, it was butter smooth. This Tar X really did do a good time to remove all the crap.
Nothing special here just just a decent polish to help lessen any swirl marks or light scratching. I used a TORQX Dual Action Polisher with the red ultra light cutting pad.
IPA Wipe (Isopropyl Alcohol):
This is a new step for me but it totally makes sense. If you ever do any type of gluing or applying tape, you know the first step is to clean there surface with Isopropyl Alcohol. As we want the ceramic coating to bond as best as possible to the surface you need this wipe down to get it as perfectly clean as possible. Some people at this point will go back and do another wash, but a good IPA is just as good and faster in my opinion. I went with a 9:1 (water to 91% Isopropyl Alcohol) ratio and wiped down all of my car's surface.
I won't go into too much depth here as there is a lot of videos and sites that go over the steps, but in summary apply a little of the liquid ceramic coating on to the application pad and work on small 1 to 2ft areas at a time. This was likely the best directions I found:
Results & Thoughts:
While this stuff says you can put it on nearly any surface, I would avoid glass. Nearly all of my windows had hazing issues after another 2 days of curing. And yes I made sure to wipe it off good before it flashed. I can only guess that I didn't clean my windows good enough or something. I have some great glass cleaner/polisher called "Driven Extreme Duty Glass Cleaner" that I completely forgot to use. Luckly it worked great to remove the ceramic coating from the glass. I did leave it on my headlights as there was no issues there. As for the rest of my car, I couldn't really say if this looks better than a traditional wax or synthetic sealant as I've never done that on this car. or this color before. Per my research it takes about 30 days for the ceramic coating to fully cure and become it's glossiest... so we will have to wait and see. I'll post some picture and video in a few weeks so we have a record of what it looks like.
I will say this is fair more expensive than a traditional wax, but it makes sense as this is marketed to last 2 years. Only time will tell.
I'm really not going to go over the steps on how to install new HID bulbs in a B8.5 S4 as there is many Youtube videos out there to cover that. I will let you know that you will need to remove the Air intake box on the passenger side, so plan a head on that. I will warn you these are 4200k color so they are white with a hint of yellow. For those of you that want the pure white, well these aren't going to be your bulb. I like them because simply because this color works better for all weather situation. 5500K and higher bulbs have a hard time illuminating wet roads like what we experience in the Pacific Northwest, so the 4200k is the ideal color.
In summary way brighter, and I'm happy I got them. Sorry pictures won't do justice so you will just have to take my word for it.
Wait what? Let me explain. So I was looking at the old supercharger pulley and took some measurements and it is nearly same size as the pulley I put on. (Little over 57.5-57.7mm depending on where I measure it). I know this is smaller than stock so this means one of the previous owners had a stage 2 tune on this car. Also when I went to stage 1 I noticed a major hit in my MPG as my car was likely running too lean as the supercharge was spinning faster that stock and blowing the air to fuel ratio out of whack. I think the previous owner likely flashed it back to stock as the stock tune would be able adjust for the different boost from the supercharger, it just the stage 1 was not designed for the pulley to be there so that likely where the problem is. I'm going to give the stage 2 tune a few tank fulls to see if now my MPG comes back up.
That all said, I did look over my install pictures and the car itself and sadly I can't find any other major upgrades that I should be aware. I was really hoping to find the crank pulley and cooling upgraded, but it wasn't. The real question is what tune was on this car before? I've emailed all the major tuner and gave them my VIN to see I can find who it was. Kind of a shot in the dark if any of them reply.
As for the EPL Stage 2 single pulley tune, it certainly has a lot more low in torque and generally more power along the full range. It is simply stupid easy to break loose my all season tires on a slightly wet road with traction control set to off. I'm ditching these tires went spring comes as I'm getting winter tires install this weekend and hope to run summer tires next post winter. As for the tune I'm happy with it. I've very interested to see if my MPG improve now that everything is back in sync. Only time will tell...
I couldn't pass on a Black Friday sale with EPL so I decided it was time to upgrade to Stage 2. There are many videos and guides out there, so it's kind of hard to screw it up. It took me about 4-5 hours to complete, but I was going super slow to make sure I didn't break anything, and or lose any bolts. The most time consuming part is just getting the car into "Service Position". After that point it was about 5mins to get the supercharger pulley removed, using a proper pulley puller tool. I had the new pulley heated in my oven for about a hour at 400F but sadly that was not enough as the pulley would not go on. So I did 500F for 20mins and the pulley went on like a glove. I used a mini blower I have for blowing off water from my car and 10mins later it was cool enough to the touch to install the belt. From there put everything back in reverse order. And Another few mins to flash the EPL Stage 2 tune and I was on my way for my test drive.
About 10 mins into my drive I heard a horrible flapping slapping noise. Crap, I was so excited to drive I didn't bring any tool and immediately thought my belt snapped. I pulled over to take a look and found no issues... the belt was fine. So I continued on my drive heading back home and the sound did it again.... At that point I remember one thing I forgot to snap back in place and it was the garage door homelink transmitter between the grill and heat exchanger. It was basically flapping in the wind at certain speeds. Luckily all was ok and it still functions... but it sure did scare the crap out of me.
I'll give it a week to allow everything to adapt, before I push it. I hope to give it a review in the coming weeks.
This weekend, I replaced my stock fog lamps as they were pitted like crazy. I found a pair of new Depo's on eBay for a little over $100. To prevent this pitting from happening again I went with Lamni-x and got a some film with a slight tint on it. I wet applied the Lamni-x with "Rapid Tac" which is a great spray to use for vinyl or other wet applications. It made it some much easier to align the Lamni-x as it only cover the visiable part of the fog lamp when the cover/grill is back over it.
While I was working on my fog lamps I updated to 3000k HID's. I do miss my retrofit projected fog I had in my B5 S4 as they was zero glare with them. As my current B8.5 S4 is using a reflective housing, glare is a problem. Typically what I will do is measure from the ground to the top of the fog lamp and then put a line of tape on my garage door at the same height (showing below). I try to get the hot spot of the beam to be slightly below the line to minimize glare as the beam is angled down.
I do recommend that if you want HID's in your fogs, it's best to turn off the "corning light" function in VCDS (VagCom) or OBDEleven. The corning light will turn on the fog light for which ever side you are turning too at low speeds like in a parking lot for example. This is just not good for HID as you don't want to turn them on and off in short intervals. Plus there is a warm up period of HID bulbs, a quick on and off is just damaging them.
So far I'm pretty happy with the setup. The fogs are slightly less noticeable when off, but when they are on, the light is perfect for our often rainy Seattle roads. I'm be looking for a different setup of HID bulbs as the color is a warm yellow, but not the golden yellow I am after. We will see...
Following some of the suggestions found on the following thread, I decided to modify my existing stock exhaust to allow it to sing a better tune.
So, I had a Magnaflow 11385 installed where the baby resonators are located, and straight piping where the mid muffler.
And here is a drive by, drive away, inside, and some reving all in one:
As for my initial thoughts, it is near stock like quiet when cruising at 60 mph, no drone at all. Once you open it up it has a prrr like sound very familiar to a VR6 or VW R32 with out the the lower tones. The best part, if you drive it gently, it really is not much louder than stock. Not to mention from the outside, it still looks 100% stock.
In typical Audi fashion, it didn't take long for my first problem to come up. I noticed on our weekly trip to Costco that the A/C wasn't kicking on. I'm so glad I got the OBDEleven scanner as I was able to find out the problem while waiting in the Costco gas line. If you don't have a OBDEleven, it is so worth it. You get everything the VCDS (VagCom) has, but in a easy format.
The faults I got were 00457 & 00256:
The part I needed was an A/C Pressure Switch (Part Number: 4H0959126B)
The install was super easy. Just remove the black plastic tray that sits over the top of the radiator and A/C condenser. This is the same tray/cover that is in between both headlights in the engine bay. Next, look down just behind the front grill on the driver side and you should see this:
You do need a 24mm wrench or super deep socket. Simply remove it counter clock wise. If you are using a socket you will need to unplug the electrical connector. Once it is nearly off you should here a small "phsss" for a second. That is just a small amount of refrigerant coming out, but it is ok. Now if you hear a ton coming out more than a few seconds, well, you just lost your refrigerant and you got another valve that needs to be replaced (sorry).
At this point, just go in reverse order and install the new switch. Done. Enjoy have working A/C!
As I had no idea when they were last replaced I figure it would be a good time. As well after chatting with EPL after everything was flashed it was recommended to replace the spark plugs. I went with the NGK PFR8S8EG gapped to 0.026" per their recommendation.
The install was very similar to my previous B5 S4. I had to move the coolant reservoir and stock air box out of the way to get to the coils, but wow are the coils a pain in the butt to pry out. I thought for sure I was going to break them trying to get them out. With the old plugs out they actually weren't in too bad of shape, but as I was already here I replaced them anyway.
Nothing too exciting with this post, but it is one less item to replace.
Honestly, I'm not sure why so many people are a fan of this filter, but as it is a little cheaper than a K&N filter (at the time), I figure I would give it a try. Installation went smooth, but I don't really feel a difference. It certainly makes the supercharger even louder. So I'm happy with that.
Amazon will say this filter doesn't fit, but it does. Below is the link:
Stage 1 EPL engine tune and DSG tune has been successfully flashed today. EPL has awesome services, so I highly recommend them. The DSG feel so much snappier, as for the engine tune, the S4 is still going through the adaption phase so I'm not going to judge just get. As well EPL suggested I get some new plugs so I got those on order.
Next, I got my ECS Tuning Carbon Fiber Intake boot/pipe installed. This is connected to to my ported air box so it is not a true open air intake. I love the look of that carbon fiber in the engine bay. I had my daughter record this video so I apologize for the shake, I scared her a few times while revving it. From within the cabin the the supercharge whine is noticeable, but not over the top. I've heard that any new intake takes a few weeks for the sound to get louder so we will see how loud it gets.
If there is anything I am really missing right now is my exhaust from my old B5 S4. I don't think it was the best sounding exhaust, but it was way better than stock. Loud enough to hear the car, but no drone, and did not annoy the neighbors.
This B8 S4 is stupid quiet and it takes the fun out of switching it in manual mode as you can't tell when to shift unless you are watching the RPM's. So... I know the AWE Touring kit is highly recommended, but good lord, $2k is pricey. Should I save up or go custom? Comment and let me know.
It is disappointing how much Audi muffled the supercharger.... so, a ECS Carbon Fiber intake boot is on the way to fix that problem. I've already ported the air box. I can't feel any difference, nor do I hear one, but we will see.
Image source: ECS Tuning (link)
Next, EPL (European Performance Labs) was kind enough to extend their "Back to School" sale for me and I have a Stage 1 and TCU (aka DSG) tune in the mail. I'm super excited to feel the difference.
More updates coming this weekend!
From my 97 VW Jetta VR6, to 2001 B5 S4, and now to my 2013 B8 S4 the first thing I do is always port out my stock air box. It seem like all newer cars the air box gets bigger but the intake to allow the air into the box gets smaller. In any case I cut out about 3-4 square inches of the box on the back passenger side of the box. Also on the front side I added about 20 or so 1/4 inch wide holes. While I was in here I check the air filter but it looks like the dealer I bought it from installed as new one as it was extremely clean.
Any difference in power? No not really, but I was mainly doing this to increase the sound of the super charger as this was recommend. I can hear the super charger ever so slightly now, I still need to get a new intake boot to really increase the the sound.
Well my B5 S4 was sold tonight, so the search for a b8.5 S4 is in full swing. Time to put on my negotiator hat.
Well, I'm ready for a upgrade and have my heart set on a b8.5 S4, and since I only have a two car garage and my wife won't park outside... the B5 S4 is going up for sale.
You can find my post on Craigslist here:
I'm in no rush to sell, but if you are interested let me know.
Well the time has come for me to look for something a little newer. I love my B5 S4 but it is not the best for commuting. So yes, I'm sadly looking for an automatic. Seattle traffic simply sucks, and I'm getting too old and lazy to deal with it. And to top it off I did test drive a B8.5 S4 and that 7 speed DSG, all I can say is wow! So smooth!
So I got approved for a loan with my local credit union, but man I am having a heck of a time finding any good B8.5 S4 (2013-2015) in the state of Washington. The only one I found was good and at the time I thought at a good price, but the seller tried to say it had a clean record when it was actually a total loss from TX. Thank you Carfax for the save!
Anyway, if you know of anyone selling a B8.5 S4 please comment below. I'm on a budget and I'm still not sure what I will do with my B5, but you all know I will baby the B8.5 and treat it with only the best care. Thanks all!
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